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#81 Nothing Ever Happens In Katy | Jerry Lopez

Jerry Lopez is a 5x certified Magento developer working as a cross-stack developer for The Great Courses by The Teaching Company.

In this podcast we talk about habits, remote work, focus, health, calorie tracking, study groups within agencies for certifications, and more.

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i can literally like just like turn off

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front-end mode and then just go into

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back-end mode and just

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build out you know the the graphql uh

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the graphical queries or the resolvers

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and stuff

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and be able to just grab whatever data i

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need to grab and then know that

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the front-end needs these pieces of data

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and that's why i

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all i got to do and then i can just turn

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off back-end mode and go

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front-end mode and then interesting

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[Music]

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jerry how you doing sir doing good man

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hey it's uh it's good to get you on the

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podcast

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it's been a while since we uh saw each

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other i think it was uh

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mage titans austin or mayjax was that uh

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yeah was that in 2019 or

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the year before i don't really remember

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i think it was a year before the year

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before right

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okay yeah i was out there with the with

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the whole media type yeah not the entire

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team but

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yeah yeah yeah that was cool

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so uh we were talking a little bit about

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kids and stuff before we started but

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how's everything going for you right now

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with covid

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what are you what are y'all doing to

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stay sane hopefully you are staying sane

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and uh what are you doing out there just

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shoot man just staying home um

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playing in the backyard yeah i'm

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actually uh

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started building a fireplace did you in

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my living room okay yeah

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my first time

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dude how do you build a fireplace that's

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like you gotta

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because the hard part is the ventilation

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and stuff right

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oh wait wait disclaimer disclaimer it's

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it's a faux fur okay okay

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electronic flames and stuff that's cool

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man

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yeah that's cool so a lot of a lot of

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youtubing and a lot of

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just a big mess in my garage but like

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that yeah

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yeah it's so like it's so hard to build

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stuff

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man like real worlds you know what i

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mean like when you're used to doing

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uh web stuff web stuff is hard obviously

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in its own way

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but like i i try to build like a shed

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and it's just like

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it's so much work it just take it takes

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so much longer than you think it will

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you know like simple stuff like cutting

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the wood you know

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takes forever and like

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and loki makes you want to go to home

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depot and just buy it

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but then you're like no i gotta finish

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it because i started it you know

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and uh yeah yeah it's

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it's crazy it's crazy how hard so how

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long you've been working on that now

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i've been doing it on and off for like

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the past three weeks

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just been working a lot and stuff and

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whenever i have time or and also family

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and then hanging out with

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some family um from my girlfriend and my

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side

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but yeah on and off yeah

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on the weekends kind of just like going

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there and almost

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doing some drywall too so yeah

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i heard that drywall is like the worst

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part and stuff and

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right they weren't kidding right dude

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that's actually where i stopped on my

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shed like i literally didn't finish the

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drywall

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yeah because i was like uh i i got an

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air conditioner

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and um and so it wasn't too bad even

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even when it was hot outside

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because the air conditioner was like

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literally right next to me so

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i was able i i was able to survive

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without the drywall

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so i was like i'll get to it i'll get to

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it and then i just

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i just because i wasn't sure which kind

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to get because there's so many different

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kinds of drywall

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and um oh shoot you know

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see that's what you gotta do like you

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just gotta get something to keep moving

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you know you got that pink panther kind

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or what

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i have no clue i don't even know the

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brother okay well i noticed i just i

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just grabbed the first one that i saw

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there and i was like yeah

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all right this is three feet by four by

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what

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three feet by like eight foot long got

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like two boards and i was like all right

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ready to go just take this and then just

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start cutting yeah but

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the parts that suck is the uh is the uh

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the corners

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oh yeah okay little plastic stuff for

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the corners uh-huh

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i don't even know what they're called

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anymore um like getting that on there i

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was like man i should have just drilled

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this in i was trying to like get it on

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there with the drywall

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with the with the compound and it was

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just like

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a struggle

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yeah and then you realize like in

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hindsight like oh i should have done it

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this way and it's like oh yeah

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this is why people that specialize in

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this stuff know what they're doing

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because they've

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you know they've already made all the

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mistakes and stuff

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yeah man i was like man i should have

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just hired somebody right there outside

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of home

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and told them hey come

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i did the frame the frame was a lot

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easier

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[Music]

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is that a storm yeah dude

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yeah there's a there's a storm i noticed

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well there was going to be a storm out

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here i'm like i'm in i'm in austin so

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i'm a few hours away from you

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out in houston but i wonder it's

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probably the same weather system and

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stuff but

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hopefully y'all aren't going to get hit

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too bad right did you check

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oh no man i live in i live in katy man

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and for some reason nothing ever happens

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it just protected tornado like a tour

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they

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always say oh there's a tornado over

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here or freaking hurricanes come and

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it's literally always if i look at the

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weather channel we're just like

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always just like grazing by yeah yeah

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we just always get lucky scared lucky

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and that's like the running joke

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that's the running joke for me and my

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girl is just like nothing ever happens

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in canada

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as long as we stay here stay put

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shouldn't get hit with any

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just stay right sweet spot

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so uh i noticed you have the hey.com

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uh email address and uh

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i was curious how are you how are you

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liking that it's a cool product

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yeah i'm liking it so far man um i

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uh i was i was like looking around for

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like a good

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i don't know like six months i was just

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trying all kinds of like email clients

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and stuff

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and it

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the one that i like settled on before

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hey

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um was called tempo

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and that one kind of like kept every

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everything sane for me because i was one

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one other thing too was i was trying to

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get everything like merged in all my

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emails from

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anything that i had or should i get them

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all in just one inbox

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um because i don't know man i feel like

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i feel like email cam became like a

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source of anxiety for me and stuff so

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i'm just like

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i just need to freaking find something

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that'll just like

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i'll just go through it once or a couple

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times a day and then just like

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completely forget about it and and all

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that and then when i saw hey i was like

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oh dang

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like you telling me i don't have to deal

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with like freaking

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newsletters and then all these crazy ads

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i can just like screen them out and then

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just literally just worry about the

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emails that i actually want to worry

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about

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so i gave it a shot and

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i stuck with it man i'm you know 99

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bucks

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yeah but stuck with it just gonna try it

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out and see

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for the year and see how it goes but i'm

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i'm really liking it so far yeah i mean

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it's been pretty helpful yeah email is

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such a

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such a can be such a distraction for for

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for everybody that it's uh yeah it's

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cool to see

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like some innovation there you know

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where like email's been kind of

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the same for a long time and it's it's a

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pretty

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unique you know take on it yeah

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yeah i for me

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just getting like the notifications um

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i'm

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like this i'm the type of person that

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just like if you ask me to do something

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i'm like all right cool let's do it

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let's go

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what do we need to do what do we need to

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get what do we need exactly to just get

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it done and i'm just like okay so in the

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next five minutes i'm gonna get it done

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but when i get emails i

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treat the emails the same way

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so i'm just like i still see the email i

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see the notification just pop in

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i'm just like all right so what do they

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need all right let me reply if i need a

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reply or whatever they need to do let me

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just get it done so i can just get out

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of my life and then you know

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keep going yeah but it just becomes

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hectic when it's like freaking 20 emails

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yeah in like the last three hours

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yeah yeah and they all need something

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yeah and

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it's just it just gets hectic and that's

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why

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it became the source of my anxiety and

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stuff like that i'm just like always

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just trying to get [ __ ] done and

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i can't i can't just like constantly

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monitor that

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while working on something like pretty

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in-depth

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yeah because then i'm gonna just keep

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kind of just keep getting distracted and

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then coming back and then losing my

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train of thought and

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that kind of stuff yeah it just just

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became a hassle

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yeah yeah do you as far as like work

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goes your workflow working remotely and

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stuff like that do you um

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do you turn notifications off for

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certain times of the day so you could

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focus

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do you keep them on so you could stay in

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touch how do you uh

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how do you do it so i haven't i haven't

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done that yet

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um i've always wanted to but i always i

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always get that feeling that i'm gonna

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like miss something

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and although although i'm saying like

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you know i don't really want

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so many notifications and stuff i still

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don't want to miss

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something important yeah so i'm still in

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the process of like just like

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adjusting to to the idea of just

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completely turn off my notifications and

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just like focus

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yeah um because

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i just i don't know i i guess

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i guess i should just like just rip off

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the band-aid and just do

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and just probably i'm pretty sure

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nothing is uh you know life or death or

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anything like that so yeah most of the

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time it's most the time it's not

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but i think it's a tough it's a tough

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thing to do i think to

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uh to pull that bandaid off and there's

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a lot of expectations and when you're

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working remotely you want to make sure

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people feel that you're

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available and responsive and everything

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like that so

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yeah exactly yeah that's that's that's

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the part right there

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is i don't want i don't want people to

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think that i'm slacking off

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right that's the last thing you want

0:11:10.800,0:11:14.240
anybody on your team to think yeah

0:11:13.200,0:11:17.360
exactly

0:11:14.240,0:11:20.160
and um and

0:11:17.360,0:11:21.040
i mean it's just in all honesty man it's

0:11:20.160,0:11:24.160
just like you know that's

0:11:21.040,0:11:26.959
those are thoughts that you know

0:11:24.160,0:11:28.720
that i've had even with mainly with just

0:11:26.959,0:11:31.040
like remote working actually

0:11:28.720,0:11:32.640
i was in the office you know as long as

0:11:31.040,0:11:34.880
they saw me at my desk or you know

0:11:32.640,0:11:36.160
just taking on my laptop you know

0:11:34.880,0:11:39.839
everything was fine

0:11:36.160,0:11:40.880
but um but yeah i i think it's just with

0:11:39.839,0:11:44.640
remote work not

0:11:40.880,0:11:47.760
really think about it um

0:11:44.640,0:11:50.079
i don't know i i guess i just

0:11:47.760,0:11:50.079
uh

0:11:50.959,0:11:53.600
like you said i i just don't want i just

0:11:52.480,0:11:54.959
i just don't want anybody think i'm just

0:11:53.600,0:11:56.320
like slacking off and stuff i know i'm

0:11:54.959,0:11:59.760
not a slacker

0:11:56.320,0:12:01.519
um but things can look

0:11:59.760,0:12:02.959
a certain way to somebody else who's

0:12:01.519,0:12:06.000
yeah which like you know

0:12:02.959,0:12:08.000
who's not there dude i think literally

0:12:06.000,0:12:10.959
everybody has that feeling

0:12:08.000,0:12:12.240
um except maybe people that really don't

0:12:10.959,0:12:13.440
care maybe they don't have that but

0:12:12.240,0:12:16.720
everybody that

0:12:13.440,0:12:19.279
that cares i think has that tension

0:12:16.720,0:12:21.680
um and wants people to know that they're

0:12:19.279,0:12:24.720
on top of things and stuff like that so

0:12:21.680,0:12:26.240
i think that's probably universal um

0:12:24.720,0:12:27.839
and you're doing something right man

0:12:26.240,0:12:30.480
because your career has been

0:12:27.839,0:12:31.120
has been going you know up and up and up

0:12:30.480,0:12:33.200
um

0:12:31.120,0:12:34.320
i know you you were at meteo type for a

0:12:33.200,0:12:36.959
couple years

0:12:34.320,0:12:37.519
got a ton of certifications you just

0:12:36.959,0:12:40.720
started

0:12:37.519,0:12:43.839
uh was it a few months ago at um the

0:12:40.720,0:12:46.959
teaching company yeah uh

0:12:43.839,0:12:50.000
back in august okay i guess that's two

0:12:46.959,0:12:53.040
two months maybe two months yeah

0:12:50.000,0:12:55.040
yeah how's that been going for you

0:12:53.040,0:12:56.639
it's been going pretty good man i i

0:12:55.040,0:12:58.639
really like it there um

0:12:56.639,0:13:00.480
everybody just yeah everybody's been

0:12:58.639,0:13:04.079
pretty helpful and

0:13:00.480,0:13:05.200
you know super welcoming and um

0:13:04.079,0:13:06.959
just a lot of cool stuff that we're

0:13:05.200,0:13:07.279
working on and all that yeah a lot of

0:13:06.959,0:13:10.079
like

0:13:07.279,0:13:11.360
graphql and pwa stuff right right it's

0:13:10.079,0:13:12.560
pretty dope that's cool so what do you

0:13:11.360,0:13:15.839
what are you doing with uh

0:13:12.560,0:13:18.000
pwa and graphql so

0:13:15.839,0:13:18.880
we're working with uh so we're just

0:13:18.000,0:13:24.000
rebuilding

0:13:18.880,0:13:25.600
um their main site the greatcourses.com

0:13:24.000,0:13:27.120
what do they do by the way they have the

0:13:25.600,0:13:29.120
first of all they have the longest name

0:13:27.120,0:13:30.959
of any merchant i've ever seen it's like

0:13:29.120,0:13:34.079
the great teaching courses by the

0:13:30.959,0:13:37.360
teacher it's like eight words

0:13:34.079,0:13:38.720
so the the company the company itself is

0:13:37.360,0:13:41.440
called the teaching company

0:13:38.720,0:13:43.199
and they uh they have two sites they

0:13:41.440,0:13:46.800
have the great courses

0:13:43.199,0:13:49.120
um and the great courses plus okay so

0:13:46.800,0:13:50.240
the great courses is where they sell um

0:13:49.120,0:13:54.480
a la carte

0:13:50.240,0:13:58.240
things like dvds or

0:13:54.480,0:14:00.240
instant video or instant audio of

0:13:58.240,0:14:01.440
different types of courses like you want

0:14:00.240,0:14:03.199
to learn some calculus

0:14:01.440,0:14:05.920
um you want to learn okay some algebra

0:14:03.199,0:14:09.839
all right okay um

0:14:05.920,0:14:11.519
learn about like the history about

0:14:09.839,0:14:13.519
some random country and things like that

0:14:11.519,0:14:14.240
you know they have they have a ton a ton

0:14:13.519,0:14:16.800
of courses

0:14:14.240,0:14:18.320
and all those courses are taught by like

0:14:16.800,0:14:21.440
university professors and

0:14:18.320,0:14:23.760
that kind of stuff oh okay um yeah and

0:14:21.440,0:14:26.959
then the great courses plus

0:14:23.760,0:14:30.000
is all that but kind of like a

0:14:26.959,0:14:31.839
netflix type style thing gotcha so they

0:14:30.000,0:14:34.399
have an apple tv app

0:14:31.839,0:14:35.199
roku app you know oh that's not cool you

0:14:34.399,0:14:36.560
can just

0:14:35.199,0:14:37.760
yeah so you just pay for the

0:14:36.560,0:14:39.440
subscription and then you just have

0:14:37.760,0:14:42.959
access to all those courses

0:14:39.440,0:14:46.240
nice that's pretty dope yeah actually

0:14:42.959,0:14:48.880
been watching a couple of courses nice

0:14:46.240,0:14:51.519
yeah learning some algebra going back

0:14:48.880,0:14:54.320
over your your calculus and

0:14:51.519,0:14:55.600
linear algebra never made it a

0:14:54.320,0:14:58.639
calculator

0:14:55.600,0:15:01.680
never made any calculus man

0:14:58.639,0:15:03.839
dude yeah it's a pretty nice company

0:15:01.680,0:15:06.000
that's cool man how are you liking the

0:15:03.839,0:15:08.000
transition i want to get into the

0:15:06.000,0:15:10.800
see how see how far i could track with

0:15:08.000,0:15:12.320
you on the specifics of pwa and react

0:15:10.800,0:15:15.120
and stuff like that but

0:15:12.320,0:15:17.199
um how are you liking the transition

0:15:15.120,0:15:19.839
from solution partner to

0:15:17.199,0:15:20.480
merchant because that's transition that

0:15:19.839,0:15:23.680
you know people

0:15:20.480,0:15:28.000
tend to make sometimes yeah

0:15:23.680,0:15:31.920
so i've so far i've liked it

0:15:28.000,0:15:36.720
um i have what can i say i guess

0:15:31.920,0:15:38.959
like i really haven't noticed

0:15:36.720,0:15:40.000
much notice much of a difference in pace

0:15:38.959,0:15:43.199
i would say okay

0:15:40.000,0:15:43.680
um and i think and i think it's because

0:15:43.199,0:15:44.880
of

0:15:43.680,0:15:45.920
you know because of the work that we're

0:15:44.880,0:15:47.600
doing right now we're trying to launch

0:15:45.920,0:15:50.720
the site and all that

0:15:47.600,0:15:53.759
um this new pwa stuff um

0:15:50.720,0:15:55.440
so maybe maybe once we're

0:15:53.759,0:15:58.720
all done with that things will slow down

0:15:55.440,0:16:00.320
a little bit and then the uh

0:15:58.720,0:16:01.920
the supposed uh you know you work out a

0:16:00.320,0:16:05.680
merch and everything super slow thing

0:16:01.920,0:16:08.880
will happen but yeah that's funny

0:16:05.680,0:16:09.839
that's what everybody tells me right i

0:16:08.880,0:16:12.720
don't think i don't

0:16:09.839,0:16:14.639
honestly like looking at from what i've

0:16:12.720,0:16:15.839
seen so far here i don't think that'll

0:16:14.639,0:16:17.839
happen here yeah um

0:16:15.839,0:16:20.399
we're we're all trying to work pretty

0:16:17.839,0:16:23.519
hard to you know

0:16:20.399,0:16:26.800
one get the site out the door but also

0:16:23.519,0:16:27.519
um just kind of just work on bugs after

0:16:26.800,0:16:30.000
things are

0:16:27.519,0:16:31.680
done you know getting some unit testing

0:16:30.000,0:16:32.399
and all that kind of stuff yeah after

0:16:31.680,0:16:34.160
that

0:16:32.399,0:16:36.160
i think that's i'd say that's a probably

0:16:34.160,0:16:37.680
a really good sign um

0:16:36.160,0:16:39.680
i know you had mentioned they were doing

0:16:37.680,0:16:41.199
some pretty pretty uh

0:16:39.680,0:16:42.560
heavy hiring and stuff it seems like

0:16:41.199,0:16:43.279
they've been hiring some heavy hitters

0:16:42.560,0:16:45.440
so

0:16:43.279,0:16:47.360
i think that they probably have a good

0:16:45.440,0:16:48.959
pace there because i would say that is

0:16:47.360,0:16:50.399
probably the common thing that merchants

0:16:48.959,0:16:53.920
are maybe a bit

0:16:50.399,0:16:56.399
slower paced um and meteotype is a

0:16:53.920,0:16:59.199
is a is a very i mean massively

0:16:56.399,0:17:01.279
successful agency so that's

0:16:59.199,0:17:02.639
that's a cool that's i think that's

0:17:01.279,0:17:05.919
interesting that you know

0:17:02.639,0:17:08.240
the it's a good pace um

0:17:05.919,0:17:09.199
yeah i don't i don't really like slow

0:17:08.240,0:17:12.480
pace that much

0:17:09.199,0:17:14.799
um honestly i just i can't

0:17:12.480,0:17:15.760
i mean like like i said earlier i'm you

0:17:14.799,0:17:18.559
give me something to do

0:17:15.760,0:17:19.679
you like to get it done yeah yeah yeah i

0:17:18.559,0:17:20.959
don't i don't really like sitting on

0:17:19.679,0:17:24.720
things too much yeah so

0:17:20.959,0:17:27.360
yeah so what um so what pwa framework

0:17:24.720,0:17:30.720
are y'all are you're in a pwa studio

0:17:27.360,0:17:33.600
or no so uh we're

0:17:30.720,0:17:33.919
actually using scandi oh okay nice

0:17:33.600,0:17:35.280
that's

0:17:33.919,0:17:36.720
interesting that's the first i've heard

0:17:35.280,0:17:38.080
about it i mean i've heard about it

0:17:36.720,0:17:40.000
that's the first i've talked to somebody

0:17:38.080,0:17:43.200
that's using it in depth so

0:17:40.000,0:17:44.480
um that's interesting it's uh it's been

0:17:43.200,0:17:46.160
yeah it's been it's been pretty

0:17:44.480,0:17:47.039
interesting to have a pretty decent

0:17:46.160,0:17:50.559
framework i haven't

0:17:47.039,0:17:53.760
i haven't like touched a whole lot of it

0:17:50.559,0:17:56.320
um i've been pretty focused on

0:17:53.760,0:17:57.600
uh some specific features and stuff okay

0:17:56.320,0:18:00.880
but

0:17:57.600,0:18:03.440
um but in terms of like

0:18:00.880,0:18:05.360
developer experience it's been it's

0:18:03.440,0:18:07.520
actually been pretty nice because

0:18:05.360,0:18:09.600
um everything is just literally right

0:18:07.520,0:18:11.120
there within the same repository so you

0:18:09.600,0:18:12.720
don't you don't really have to like have

0:18:11.120,0:18:13.919
like a separate completely separate code

0:18:12.720,0:18:17.360
base

0:18:13.919,0:18:18.880
for the uh for the pwa you

0:18:17.360,0:18:20.799
pretty much just like a regular magento

0:18:18.880,0:18:23.600
theme okay um it's in

0:18:20.799,0:18:25.280
it's an app design whatever theme it is

0:18:23.600,0:18:25.840
and then there's your scandy pwa theme

0:18:25.280,0:18:29.520
okay

0:18:25.840,0:18:31.440
that's good so

0:18:29.520,0:18:33.039
it's been pretty it's been pretty nice

0:18:31.440,0:18:33.679
um i really like i really like the fact

0:18:33.039,0:18:36.720
that

0:18:33.679,0:18:38.400
um just like the separation of it though

0:18:36.720,0:18:40.000
like the uh

0:18:38.400,0:18:42.080
the front end and the back end though

0:18:40.000,0:18:46.160
it's been that has

0:18:42.080,0:18:48.960
been like more of a

0:18:46.160,0:18:48.960
like i say like

0:18:49.840,0:18:53.919
i've been enjoying that a lot more um

0:18:52.000,0:18:56.640
because i can

0:18:53.919,0:18:58.320
i can literally like just like turn off

0:18:56.640,0:18:59.760
front-end mode and then just go into

0:18:58.320,0:19:01.919
back-end mode and just

0:18:59.760,0:19:03.919
build out you know the the graphql uh

0:19:01.919,0:19:04.559
the graphical queries or the resolvers

0:19:03.919,0:19:06.240
and stuff

0:19:04.559,0:19:08.480
and be able to just grab whatever data i

0:19:06.240,0:19:11.280
need to grab and then know that

0:19:08.480,0:19:12.400
the front-end needs these pieces of data

0:19:11.280,0:19:14.160
and that's why i

0:19:12.400,0:19:15.600
all i got to do and then i can just turn

0:19:14.160,0:19:17.600
off back-end mode and go

0:19:15.600,0:19:19.919
front-end mode and then interesting that

0:19:17.600,0:19:21.840
out so it's like a cleaner separation of

0:19:19.919,0:19:25.039
front end and back end

0:19:21.840,0:19:26.320
yeah that's cool yeah i've been

0:19:25.039,0:19:28.080
i've been enjoying that a lot more

0:19:26.320,0:19:31.280
because i don't have to sit there and

0:19:28.080,0:19:32.960
and worry about well if i change this

0:19:31.280,0:19:35.440
thing for this class

0:19:32.960,0:19:36.480
will it how many blocks would it affect

0:19:35.440,0:19:38.880
right

0:19:36.480,0:19:39.919
like is it going to mess up anything

0:19:38.880,0:19:41.440
else like is

0:19:39.919,0:19:43.440
who else is like messing around with

0:19:41.440,0:19:45.520
this i mean you still have

0:19:43.440,0:19:46.559
things like you know you still have like

0:19:45.520,0:19:48.240
regular

0:19:46.559,0:19:50.160
magento back and stuff but you just have

0:19:48.240,0:19:51.120
to deal with like any other theme crap

0:19:50.160,0:19:53.360
that yeah

0:19:51.120,0:19:55.520
um it's not saying like it's a bad thing

0:19:53.360,0:19:55.520
but

0:19:57.200,0:20:01.200
but yes it's it's it's been pretty it's

0:19:59.760,0:20:02.880
been really nice to just have that

0:20:01.200,0:20:05.120
separation that's cool

0:20:02.880,0:20:06.159
what um so when you're building out the

0:20:05.120,0:20:08.880
graphql

0:20:06.159,0:20:10.799
resolvers or whatever api calls i

0:20:08.880,0:20:11.760
haven't built much graphql myself so i

0:20:10.799,0:20:13.520
just think of it as like

0:20:11.760,0:20:14.880
i imagine it's like a rest api but

0:20:13.520,0:20:18.000
fancier you know

0:20:14.880,0:20:18.960
but um yeah but when you're um when

0:20:18.000,0:20:21.520
you're building those

0:20:18.960,0:20:22.640
out are you having to think about

0:20:21.520,0:20:24.640
optimization

0:20:22.640,0:20:26.000
and stuff like that because i know like

0:20:24.640,0:20:29.200
on the front end

0:20:26.000,0:20:29.600
you can quit like you can query you can

0:20:29.200,0:20:31.039
grab

0:20:29.600,0:20:32.799
something from different objects and

0:20:31.039,0:20:35.760
stuff like that on the front end

0:20:32.799,0:20:37.760
over a graphql call without necessarily

0:20:35.760,0:20:40.159
thinking about how to implement that

0:20:37.760,0:20:41.760
on the back end so are you having to

0:20:40.159,0:20:42.880
think through optimization and stuff

0:20:41.760,0:20:46.559
like that or is that

0:20:42.880,0:20:50.559
also kind of simplified as far as like

0:20:46.559,0:20:50.559
database queries and stuff like that

0:20:50.640,0:20:55.679
yeah so i haven't i haven't

0:20:54.240,0:20:57.760
run into the situation i mean i haven't

0:20:55.679,0:21:01.360
i haven't really used much graphql

0:20:57.760,0:21:04.880
up until this job either so i'm

0:21:01.360,0:21:08.880
learning a lot as i go to uh but

0:21:04.880,0:21:11.120
so far i haven't really had to like

0:21:08.880,0:21:12.799
really think too much about you know i

0:21:11.120,0:21:16.000
guess performance or any type of

0:21:12.799,0:21:20.080
optimizations at all um i've just

0:21:16.000,0:21:21.919
really just been hooking into and

0:21:20.080,0:21:23.679
and getting data from like the

0:21:21.919,0:21:26.000
repositories that

0:21:23.679,0:21:27.520
are within um you know like let's say

0:21:26.000,0:21:29.600
you gotta get some products or something

0:21:27.520,0:21:31.280
you need a product list just call the

0:21:29.600,0:21:33.039
product repository

0:21:31.280,0:21:34.960
and then just get lists get your

0:21:33.039,0:21:36.880
products get the information you need

0:21:34.960,0:21:38.240
and then literally just return an array

0:21:36.880,0:21:38.799
of all the info that you need okay

0:21:38.240,0:21:42.159
return

0:21:38.799,0:21:43.679
yeah um so there

0:21:42.159,0:21:45.840
there have i guess i guess there have

0:21:43.679,0:21:47.880
been like certain instances like

0:21:45.840,0:21:49.440
where you

0:21:47.880,0:21:50.799
[Music]

0:21:49.440,0:21:52.640
kind of like the typical stuff that you

0:21:50.799,0:21:56.320
know you don't you don't want to

0:21:52.640,0:21:59.200
load unnecessary things um

0:21:56.320,0:22:00.320
so that's that's pretty much the type of

0:21:59.200,0:22:03.360
the typical things that

0:22:00.320,0:22:05.039
you that you would want to avoid um

0:22:03.360,0:22:06.400
don't load unnecessary models or things

0:22:05.039,0:22:07.600
like that um this

0:22:06.400,0:22:09.440
pretty much applies the same here

0:22:07.600,0:22:10.240
because it's it's all still magento

0:22:09.440,0:22:13.200
back-end

0:22:10.240,0:22:15.520
uh the only thing is that you're

0:22:13.200,0:22:18.880
returning an array of data

0:22:15.520,0:22:19.679
as opposed to um you know creating a

0:22:18.880,0:22:22.080
block to

0:22:19.679,0:22:23.919
get that data so it can go into the html

0:22:22.080,0:22:26.240
files and render that stuff out

0:22:23.919,0:22:28.480
um in this case you're just returning

0:22:26.240,0:22:30.640
right that's literally it right

0:22:28.480,0:22:32.320
and like what are some of the types of

0:22:30.640,0:22:34.000
features that you're working on

0:22:32.320,0:22:36.559
like if you can get into any of the

0:22:34.000,0:22:36.559
details

0:22:37.120,0:22:45.360
uh unfortunately i can't okay um

0:22:40.240,0:22:47.679
but um gotta keep it super secret

0:22:45.360,0:22:49.760
gotta keep it locked down tight no i get

0:22:47.679,0:22:51.360
it i get it yeah the merchants they

0:22:49.760,0:22:54.400
gotta keep all that

0:22:51.360,0:22:57.520
all that ip uh that they're investing in

0:22:54.400,0:22:59.440
so that's that's understandable yeah um

0:22:57.520,0:23:02.080
but they're pretty they're pretty

0:22:59.440,0:23:06.240
interesting though um

0:23:02.080,0:23:09.600
and um there's a lot of uh

0:23:06.240,0:23:11.840
classic searches is in the mix as well

0:23:09.600,0:23:11.840
rock

0:23:14.240,0:23:17.360
went down the wrong tube

0:23:17.520,0:23:21.280
yeah man

0:23:21.520,0:23:27.280
but yeah that's the first time that's

0:23:25.120,0:23:30.240
happened in a while

0:23:27.280,0:23:31.600
ah all right i'm back i'm back i'm still

0:23:30.240,0:23:32.159
alive yeah you remind me i need some

0:23:31.600,0:23:34.960
water too

0:23:32.159,0:23:36.880
okay water break damn eyes are

0:23:34.960,0:23:39.840
waterproof

0:23:36.880,0:23:42.000
so you're saying you got some elastic

0:23:39.840,0:23:43.760
search in there too

0:23:42.000,0:23:45.279
yeah so we got some elastic search stuff

0:23:43.760,0:23:46.559
in there as well um

0:23:45.279,0:23:49.360
so it's pretty interesting trying to

0:23:46.559,0:23:51.039
like you know build up some graphical

0:23:49.360,0:23:52.000
calls for that stuff too and and all

0:23:51.039,0:23:55.279
that okay

0:23:52.000,0:23:57.840
so and i've

0:23:55.279,0:23:58.720
honestly i feel like at this time i've

0:23:57.840,0:24:01.120
literally just started

0:23:58.720,0:24:01.919
going pretty deep into elasticsearch so

0:24:01.120,0:24:05.520
yeah

0:24:01.919,0:24:07.520
it's uh it's a different beast

0:24:05.520,0:24:09.279
yep yep it's been a while since i've

0:24:07.520,0:24:10.640
touched elasticsearch

0:24:09.279,0:24:12.960
what uh what kind of stuff have you been

0:24:10.640,0:24:14.960
doing in there

0:24:12.960,0:24:16.159
dude i feel like it's just so basic what

0:24:14.960,0:24:18.320
i'm doing

0:24:16.159,0:24:19.200
but it's a lot you could do in there man

0:24:18.320,0:24:22.000
tough times yeah

0:24:19.200,0:24:23.919
it's just so many options and so much

0:24:22.000,0:24:27.279
functionality and i just

0:24:23.919,0:24:29.039
i don't i'm just like

0:24:27.279,0:24:30.880
i literally just sit there for like a

0:24:29.039,0:24:32.960
good 20 25 minutes just reading the

0:24:30.880,0:24:34.720
documentation on how to just like

0:24:32.960,0:24:36.080
do like one thing hey i need to like

0:24:34.720,0:24:38.640
retrieve the results for

0:24:36.080,0:24:39.679
like only this batch of skus and i want

0:24:38.640,0:24:42.640
to filter out

0:24:39.679,0:24:42.960
only on these attributes and that's it

0:24:42.640,0:24:45.760
right

0:24:42.960,0:24:46.000
like okay how do i what's the json for

0:24:45.760,0:24:48.400
that

0:24:46.000,0:24:50.000
yeah like you got you have like the

0:24:48.400,0:24:51.760
should keys with the

0:24:50.000,0:24:53.520
bulls and the stuff right and all that

0:24:51.760,0:24:55.760
crap and i'm just like right

0:24:53.520,0:24:57.279
okay what's what's what and how do i

0:24:55.760,0:24:57.919
like put everything together so i can

0:24:57.279,0:25:00.080
just work

0:24:57.919,0:25:00.960
yes giving me a headache yeah yeah yeah

0:25:00.080,0:25:04.559
yeah

0:25:00.960,0:25:07.840
i have some stuff i use um algolia for

0:25:04.559,0:25:09.279
and um it's really nice and simple um

0:25:07.840,0:25:10.960
i mean i think there's a lot you can do

0:25:09.279,0:25:13.360
with it but i what i use it for is

0:25:10.960,0:25:14.960
is really simple but there's these

0:25:13.360,0:25:16.640
limits it's like uh

0:25:14.960,0:25:18.720
how many records 10 000 records or

0:25:16.640,0:25:20.400
something like that

0:25:18.720,0:25:22.000
on the free on the free tier and then

0:25:20.400,0:25:23.360
the pricing goes up pretty pretty

0:25:22.000,0:25:26.000
quickly

0:25:23.360,0:25:27.600
so it doesn't seem like a lot at 10 000

0:25:26.000,0:25:29.440
i mean there's a lot you can do

0:25:27.600,0:25:31.520
but sometimes i'll run into a use case

0:25:29.440,0:25:34.640
like for example i started um

0:25:31.520,0:25:37.360
grabbing the captions from these uh

0:25:34.640,0:25:38.799
videos i'm doing the podcasts the auto

0:25:37.360,0:25:41.279
generated captions

0:25:38.799,0:25:41.840
and then i wanted uh each each interview

0:25:41.279,0:25:44.559
has like

0:25:41.840,0:25:45.279
anywhere like several thousand cap

0:25:44.559,0:25:48.880
caption

0:25:45.279,0:25:50.240
lines that's surprising right yeah so

0:25:48.880,0:25:52.000
then i wanted to

0:25:50.240,0:25:53.919
yeah i built this thing out i said oh

0:25:52.000,0:25:55.279
this is cool i can search through every

0:25:53.919,0:25:57.039
single line

0:25:55.279,0:25:59.360
really quickly you know what i mean so

0:25:57.039,0:26:03.120
like if i wanted to search like

0:25:59.360,0:26:05.520
yeah so like if i want to search elastic

0:26:03.120,0:26:06.799
search across all the podcasts i've done

0:26:05.520,0:26:09.440
i could just pull them all up

0:26:06.799,0:26:10.880
with a time stamp and stuff but then i

0:26:09.440,0:26:12.400
ran into the limits i was like ah i

0:26:10.880,0:26:14.960
gotta figure something out

0:26:12.400,0:26:16.559
um and that's a really simple use case

0:26:14.960,0:26:18.159
like i could probably just search the

0:26:16.559,0:26:21.440
flat files

0:26:18.159,0:26:23.360
um if i really wanted to or probably my

0:26:21.440,0:26:24.320
sequel is actually the easiest way to go

0:26:23.360,0:26:26.080
but i was thinking

0:26:24.320,0:26:27.520
i should probably get better at

0:26:26.080,0:26:29.919
elasticsearch at some point

0:26:27.520,0:26:30.559
because you could just do so much with

0:26:29.919,0:26:33.440
it and

0:26:30.559,0:26:35.039
you know build it out yourself not have

0:26:33.440,0:26:38.159
to pay a ton for a sass

0:26:35.039,0:26:41.200
and stuff yeah

0:26:38.159,0:26:44.640
yeah i mean i've i've followed algolio

0:26:41.200,0:26:45.919
and i've kind of seen um what they do

0:26:44.640,0:26:46.480
and stuff and i've always been

0:26:45.919,0:26:47.600
interested in

0:26:46.480,0:26:49.600
kind of like messing around with that

0:26:47.600,0:26:50.840
stuff but it's never really found a use

0:26:49.600,0:26:54.240
case for it yet

0:26:50.840,0:26:55.279
and um but yeah it seemed pretty cool

0:26:54.240,0:26:56.720
yeah

0:26:55.279,0:26:58.640
yeah once i started using it for one

0:26:56.720,0:26:59.279
thing it was i just kept seeing use

0:26:58.640,0:27:03.039
cases

0:26:59.279,0:27:05.120
everywhere for it and and then uh

0:27:03.039,0:27:06.640
so and it's so simple to get going that

0:27:05.120,0:27:10.960
it's it's pretty uh

0:27:06.640,0:27:13.520
it's pretty cool um so you mentioned

0:27:10.960,0:27:14.640
what's that i said he gets that bill

0:27:13.520,0:27:17.279
going up too

0:27:14.640,0:27:19.200
yeah i'm still on the free team like i'm

0:27:17.279,0:27:21.840
like i'm like i'm so cheap man like

0:27:19.200,0:27:23.600
i refuse to pay for any of that stuff i

0:27:21.840,0:27:26.399
hope they're not watching but like

0:27:23.600,0:27:26.399
uh i

0:27:27.520,0:27:30.559
i'm staying on their free tier for all

0:27:29.279,0:27:33.360
my stuff

0:27:30.559,0:27:35.600
um but uh so you mentioned you've been

0:27:33.360,0:27:38.880
reading atomic habits

0:27:35.600,0:27:40.159
uh the book and i read that book man i

0:27:38.880,0:27:41.360
don't know it was a few months back

0:27:40.159,0:27:44.240
maybe six months ago

0:27:41.360,0:27:46.320
i loved it it's it's the one of the only

0:27:44.240,0:27:48.240
books i read in a while

0:27:46.320,0:27:51.200
and so what what have you been what have

0:27:48.240,0:27:53.200
you been taking away from it

0:27:51.200,0:27:55.200
well i'm not reading it i'm listening to

0:27:53.200,0:27:56.240
it okay you always got to make that

0:27:55.200,0:27:58.159
distinction right

0:27:56.240,0:28:00.320
it's like you can't it's like you feel

0:27:58.159,0:28:02.020
like you're lying if you say

0:28:00.320,0:28:05.279
are you a real actual reader

0:28:02.020,0:28:06.880
[Laughter]

0:28:05.279,0:28:08.880
yeah man i've been i've been listening

0:28:06.880,0:28:09.840
to it i'm about i'm about i think uh

0:28:08.880,0:28:14.799
almost 40

0:28:09.840,0:28:18.159
of the way through um but

0:28:14.799,0:28:20.080
i guess uh so far

0:28:18.159,0:28:22.559
like i guess what i've what i've learned

0:28:20.080,0:28:26.080
so far is that

0:28:22.559,0:28:27.520
um is that

0:28:26.080,0:28:29.520
you know just how you can have good and

0:28:27.520,0:28:31.600
bad habits and stuff like that

0:28:29.520,0:28:32.559
it's it's kind of one of one things that

0:28:31.600,0:28:34.559
he keeps mentioning is that you know

0:28:32.559,0:28:37.919
that habits are a double-edged sword

0:28:34.559,0:28:37.919
um and

0:28:38.240,0:28:42.159
i can definitely see that and i

0:28:39.840,0:28:43.520
definitely have a lot of bad habits

0:28:42.159,0:28:46.880
in my opinion let's talk about it like

0:28:43.520,0:28:46.880
really reflect let's talk about it

0:28:48.240,0:28:52.480
i have some really bad habits man i mean

0:28:50.799,0:28:56.799
freaking

0:28:52.480,0:28:59.919
i i guess

0:28:56.799,0:29:01.039
one of my worst habits is i'm i'm always

0:28:59.919,0:29:03.279
trying to uh

0:29:01.039,0:29:04.640
i always want to work out okay i'm

0:29:03.279,0:29:05.520
always trying i'm always trying to work

0:29:04.640,0:29:08.480
out

0:29:05.520,0:29:09.679
and i always happen to find some sort of

0:29:08.480,0:29:13.120
excuse

0:29:09.679,0:29:14.720
to like not go work out or make work my

0:29:13.120,0:29:17.120
excuses

0:29:14.720,0:29:17.760
to say like hey nope i need to go make

0:29:17.120,0:29:20.880
some money

0:29:17.760,0:29:24.720
yeah um you know gotta pay those bills

0:29:20.880,0:29:27.120
blah blah blah and that's

0:29:24.720,0:29:28.000
that's my that's been my biggest like i

0:29:27.120,0:29:30.000
guess excuse

0:29:28.000,0:29:31.440
yeah more than a bad habit i guess um

0:29:30.000,0:29:34.799
but

0:29:31.440,0:29:36.480
um but actually what

0:29:34.799,0:29:39.120
what really what really actually got me

0:29:36.480,0:29:41.919
into the book was

0:29:39.120,0:29:43.679
was the working out part of it but i saw

0:29:41.919,0:29:44.320
some tweets that you were putting out oh

0:29:43.679,0:29:47.440
cool

0:29:44.320,0:29:48.399
um yeah i saw some tweets that you were

0:29:47.440,0:29:50.640
putting out

0:29:48.399,0:29:51.840
um with the uh where you were tracking

0:29:50.640,0:29:53.120
your calories and you were just like

0:29:51.840,0:29:55.600
reporting it and you i guess you were

0:29:53.120,0:29:58.480
trying to use twitter as like your

0:29:55.600,0:30:00.399
accountability partner yeah i was like

0:29:58.480,0:30:01.679
damn all right let me get these 20

0:30:00.399,0:30:04.000
let's see if he's actually doing it

0:30:01.679,0:30:04.000
today

0:30:05.840,0:30:12.159
and uh i was like man

0:30:09.360,0:30:13.760
every every day man i was just like you

0:30:12.159,0:30:16.240
sure you were actually doing it

0:30:13.760,0:30:18.399
but i'm glad somebody wins i was just

0:30:16.240,0:30:18.399
like

0:30:18.720,0:30:22.399
when i saw that um i was just like dang

0:30:21.840,0:30:24.640
dude

0:30:22.399,0:30:26.000
and i kind of like kind of like i don't

0:30:24.640,0:30:27.200
know kind of like inspired me a little

0:30:26.000,0:30:30.880
bit to just like all right

0:30:27.200,0:30:34.720
let me go find something um

0:30:30.880,0:30:38.080
and just like stick to it

0:30:34.720,0:30:39.360
and that's why i started looking into

0:30:38.080,0:30:41.120
atomic habits because i was

0:30:39.360,0:30:43.360
i think i like good like dude i have

0:30:41.120,0:30:45.840
some like i googled like

0:30:43.360,0:30:47.039
better habits for like working out or

0:30:45.840,0:30:50.080
something like that

0:30:47.039,0:30:52.080
and and um and then

0:30:50.080,0:30:53.600
atomic habits just like popped up yeah i

0:30:52.080,0:30:55.840
was like all right bet let me

0:30:53.600,0:30:57.440
let me look at it let me see what this

0:30:55.840,0:30:58.640
is about and i was like all right i'm

0:30:57.440,0:31:01.519
not paying for the book yet

0:30:58.640,0:31:02.840
so um let me go youtube this guy for a

0:31:01.519,0:31:05.600
little bit

0:31:02.840,0:31:07.200
and and i really liked what he was

0:31:05.600,0:31:07.519
talking about i was just like all right

0:31:07.200,0:31:09.039
bet

0:31:07.519,0:31:11.120
so he got me all pumped up and stuff so

0:31:09.039,0:31:14.240
i went and got the book audiobook

0:31:11.120,0:31:18.640
and um started listening to it

0:31:14.240,0:31:22.799
and from there i

0:31:18.640,0:31:26.880
tried just starting small

0:31:22.799,0:31:28.640
so first habit was all right

0:31:26.880,0:31:30.159
one of my main problems is waking up

0:31:28.640,0:31:32.480
early so let me

0:31:30.159,0:31:33.360
try waking up early for like a couple

0:31:32.480,0:31:35.840
weeks i

0:31:33.360,0:31:36.640
started to just wake up like around

0:31:35.840,0:31:39.440
seven

0:31:36.640,0:31:41.360
and then now i start waking up at six um

0:31:39.440,0:31:42.960
there's still some days where you know i

0:31:41.360,0:31:44.159
might just like if i go to sleep like at

0:31:42.960,0:31:46.240
12 or one

0:31:44.159,0:31:48.240
you know i was like all right i'll i'll

0:31:46.240,0:31:52.000
stay asleep until like maybe like

0:31:48.240,0:31:55.440
7 30 or 8. but

0:31:52.000,0:31:56.799
um yeah so i started with a start with a

0:31:55.440,0:31:59.600
pretty small habit

0:31:56.799,0:32:00.000
um because that's what he mentioned in

0:31:59.600,0:32:02.720
the book

0:32:00.000,0:32:03.039
i think i remember correctly but um you

0:32:02.720,0:32:06.320
know

0:32:03.039,0:32:06.720
start start small and um started with

0:32:06.320,0:32:09.120
that

0:32:06.720,0:32:09.840
and then one day went to little caesars

0:32:09.120,0:32:12.399
and

0:32:09.840,0:32:13.279
i signed up for uh i signed up for nine

0:32:12.399,0:32:17.120
round

0:32:13.279,0:32:20.320
um which is a uh like a

0:32:17.120,0:32:23.519
like a kickboxing circuit

0:32:20.320,0:32:25.360
type uh drill thing

0:32:23.519,0:32:27.279
nice you literally have nine rounds

0:32:25.360,0:32:28.720
where you're doing just like circuit

0:32:27.279,0:32:29.360
training just go through every single

0:32:28.720,0:32:31.360
round

0:32:29.360,0:32:32.480
nice for a good like 30 minutes or 45

0:32:31.360,0:32:36.000
minutes yeah

0:32:32.480,0:32:37.760
and i was like all right so i've been

0:32:36.000,0:32:40.320
waking up for like the past couple weeks

0:32:37.760,0:32:42.320
at 6 00 a.m 7 a.m

0:32:40.320,0:32:43.919
now let me just do this and then just

0:32:42.320,0:32:46.960
say you know what screw it all right

0:32:43.919,0:32:48.559
bet let's go signed up went the first

0:32:46.960,0:32:51.600
day went the second day

0:32:48.559,0:32:52.720
missed the third day missed the fourth

0:32:51.600,0:32:56.720
day

0:32:52.720,0:32:59.360
and then i was feeling like crap and

0:32:56.720,0:33:00.960
then went off and just kind of like

0:32:59.360,0:33:02.880
reflected for that week and i was like

0:33:00.960,0:33:04.640
all right

0:33:02.880,0:33:06.640
what the hell i'm literally going to be

0:33:04.640,0:33:08.080
spending money on this thing

0:33:06.640,0:33:09.760
i need to freaking do this [ __ ] because

0:33:08.080,0:33:11.440
if i don't then it's

0:33:09.760,0:33:14.000
literally just just a waste of money

0:33:11.440,0:33:16.399
yeah and um

0:33:14.000,0:33:18.320
yeah and after that dude i was like all

0:33:16.399,0:33:20.880
right

0:33:18.320,0:33:22.640
started monday went wednesday went

0:33:20.880,0:33:24.000
friday then one saturday and then just

0:33:22.640,0:33:27.039
kept going for

0:33:24.000,0:33:30.320
a good two or three weeks

0:33:27.039,0:33:31.840
and um shoot

0:33:30.320,0:33:34.320
i mean here we are now i'm still i think

0:33:31.840,0:33:36.159
i'm at week like

0:33:34.320,0:33:37.679
two or three weeks now i'm thinking i

0:33:36.159,0:33:40.799
think i'm like like week

0:33:37.679,0:33:41.919
five now nice um so i've been been going

0:33:40.799,0:33:43.200
for like about

0:33:41.919,0:33:45.200
a little over a month maybe a month and

0:33:43.200,0:33:49.360
a half yeah

0:33:45.200,0:33:50.960
and um it's it's definitely like giving

0:33:49.360,0:33:54.080
me like

0:33:50.960,0:33:57.039
more energy to like one

0:33:54.080,0:33:57.840
wake up earlier to to just like go

0:33:57.039,0:33:59.600
through my day

0:33:57.840,0:34:01.279
a lot easier i kind of feel like you

0:33:59.600,0:34:02.399
know that

0:34:01.279,0:34:05.200
just because i'm like doing something

0:34:02.399,0:34:06.799
for myself um early in the morning

0:34:05.200,0:34:08.240
and then just dealing with the day after

0:34:06.799,0:34:10.320
that uh

0:34:08.240,0:34:11.599
kind of just like puts you in a good

0:34:10.320,0:34:13.679
place just makes

0:34:11.599,0:34:15.280
good minds it gives you like a good

0:34:13.679,0:34:19.040
gives you like a good feeling yeah

0:34:15.280,0:34:21.760
um so

0:34:19.040,0:34:22.560
now i'm just like at what habit am i now

0:34:21.760,0:34:25.919
i think i'm like

0:34:22.560,0:34:26.720
habit three or four where my third habit

0:34:25.919,0:34:30.079
was

0:34:26.720,0:34:31.760
um what was that thing

0:34:30.079,0:34:33.599
i have it in my phone somewhere so i

0:34:31.760,0:34:36.960
actually tracked my habits too oh okay

0:34:33.599,0:34:37.679
um yeah yes i started i started tracking

0:34:36.960,0:34:40.480
my habits

0:34:37.679,0:34:42.960
uh just to kind of keep myself a little

0:34:40.480,0:34:44.480
more accountable

0:34:42.960,0:34:47.280
yeah there's some cool apps where you

0:34:44.480,0:34:49.359
can track like your your uh

0:34:47.280,0:34:51.520
how consistent you are on each habit

0:34:49.359,0:34:53.599
like how many days in a row and

0:34:51.520,0:34:55.200
have like streaks and stuff like that

0:34:53.599,0:34:58.000
yeah

0:34:55.200,0:34:59.119
yeah um yeah i'm using habit five that

0:34:58.000,0:35:02.400
habitify app

0:34:59.119,0:35:02.720
oh okay uh but yeah the the third habit

0:35:02.400,0:35:05.119
was

0:35:02.720,0:35:07.040
i need to sleep eight hours a day right

0:35:05.119,0:35:07.680
so i'm trying to do the eight hour thing

0:35:07.040,0:35:10.800
see if

0:35:07.680,0:35:12.560
you know i keep it going but that

0:35:10.800,0:35:14.720
habit has been kind of a challenge

0:35:12.560,0:35:15.680
because you know my kid goes to sleep at

0:35:14.720,0:35:19.680
like nine

0:35:15.680,0:35:21.280
and then i only have like an hour

0:35:19.680,0:35:22.480
left after that before i have to go to

0:35:21.280,0:35:23.119
sleep because i have to wake up at six

0:35:22.480,0:35:25.839
again

0:35:23.119,0:35:27.599
yeah so dude we started putting we

0:35:25.839,0:35:30.640
started putting our kids to bed at like

0:35:27.599,0:35:32.320
7 30 telling you dude

0:35:30.640,0:35:34.320
that's that's that's the way to hell do

0:35:32.320,0:35:37.040
you do that dude you just

0:35:34.320,0:35:39.040
bro you just you just put them you just

0:35:37.040,0:35:42.079
you just put them in the crib

0:35:39.040,0:35:42.079
and you're like hey

0:35:43.520,0:35:49.520
just peace the door you're like yo

0:35:46.640,0:35:50.000
yeah dude they'll cry for like a hot

0:35:49.520,0:35:53.200
minute

0:35:50.000,0:35:55.200
you know and then your life man your

0:35:53.200,0:35:57.200
life will be changed dude you get that

0:35:55.200,0:35:58.960
extra hour and a half every night

0:35:57.200,0:36:01.200
i used to think 7 30 was a little

0:35:58.960,0:36:03.040
extreme you know like

0:36:01.200,0:36:04.320
especially when it's when it's still

0:36:03.040,0:36:07.280
light outside

0:36:04.320,0:36:08.079
i've seen people do 6 30 yeah that's

0:36:07.280,0:36:11.359
yeah it's

0:36:08.079,0:36:12.400
i'm just like do they even have a life

0:36:11.359,0:36:14.480
just

0:36:12.400,0:36:15.599
absolutely just like all right wake up

0:36:14.480,0:36:18.079
eat

0:36:15.599,0:36:19.359
at school and come home do your homework

0:36:18.079,0:36:23.040
and

0:36:19.359,0:36:26.079
go to sleep yeah yeah

0:36:23.040,0:36:28.960
it's great but it's it's i mean it's uh

0:36:26.079,0:36:29.280
it's mostly worked out you know my son

0:36:28.960,0:36:30.960
he's

0:36:29.280,0:36:32.640
he's about a similar age he's he'll be

0:36:30.960,0:36:36.320
three in november

0:36:32.640,0:36:36.880
so yeah he split his chin open the other

0:36:36.320,0:36:39.839
day

0:36:36.880,0:36:41.680
climbing on the uh yeah he was in his

0:36:39.839,0:36:43.680
high chair and he always like

0:36:41.680,0:36:45.359
climbs out of it onto the table we're

0:36:43.680,0:36:46.079
like stop it you know we're yelling at

0:36:45.359,0:36:48.000
him

0:36:46.079,0:36:49.359
and he like split his chin open we

0:36:48.000,0:36:49.839
thought he was gonna need stitches and

0:36:49.359,0:36:53.520
stuff

0:36:49.839,0:36:55.200
but he didn't so it was okay that's good

0:36:53.520,0:36:56.960
yeah my anxiety would have been through

0:36:55.200,0:37:01.040
the roof yeah

0:36:56.960,0:37:02.720
in that situation yeah yeah dude i

0:37:01.040,0:37:04.000
i don't know man i can't i can't get my

0:37:02.720,0:37:06.160
daughter to go to sleep that early i

0:37:04.000,0:37:08.880
mean sometimes dude

0:37:06.160,0:37:10.400
she just likes to hang like she can hang

0:37:08.880,0:37:12.560
like

0:37:10.400,0:37:13.760
stay awake until like 12 and if there's

0:37:12.560,0:37:15.440
people around dude

0:37:13.760,0:37:17.200
she'll stay awake until like 2 a.m if

0:37:15.440,0:37:19.440
she if she has to right

0:37:17.200,0:37:20.240
she's like oh it's play time yeah you're

0:37:19.440,0:37:23.599
gonna play

0:37:20.240,0:37:27.119
all night yeah

0:37:23.599,0:37:28.880
it's tough man kids are i i think i was

0:37:27.119,0:37:30.160
just holding on to life by a thread for

0:37:28.880,0:37:33.040
the first couple of years

0:37:30.160,0:37:34.160
when we had our first kid you know let's

0:37:33.040,0:37:37.520
try it

0:37:34.160,0:37:39.119
just try to stay alive um

0:37:37.520,0:37:40.400
but uh nah that's cool that you're

0:37:39.119,0:37:42.400
working on the different habits and

0:37:40.400,0:37:45.119
stuff man it's like

0:37:42.400,0:37:46.560
i try to just like add little i can't

0:37:45.119,0:37:48.240
remember if it's james clear

0:37:46.560,0:37:49.680
or somebody else that talks about habit

0:37:48.240,0:37:52.720
stacking

0:37:49.680,0:37:55.119
is that in the book i can't remember

0:37:52.720,0:37:57.119
but it's basically like getting little

0:37:55.119,0:37:58.720
habits and starting to stack them on top

0:37:57.119,0:38:00.400
of each other so it's like

0:37:58.720,0:38:01.760
you have one little thing that you do

0:38:00.400,0:38:03.599
you get up early

0:38:01.760,0:38:05.440
and then you go okay i'm getting up

0:38:03.599,0:38:07.280
early i'm also gonna

0:38:05.440,0:38:08.480
you know exercise in the morning right

0:38:07.280,0:38:10.720
so then you've got

0:38:08.480,0:38:12.480
get up early exercise and it's like okay

0:38:10.720,0:38:14.880
after i exercise

0:38:12.480,0:38:16.320
i'm gonna have a protein shake or

0:38:14.880,0:38:16.960
something like that or what you know you

0:38:16.320,0:38:19.359
just keep

0:38:16.960,0:38:21.440
likes and then you kind of just one

0:38:19.359,0:38:23.920
leads to the other to the other

0:38:21.440,0:38:24.480
um so i'm always trying to i think it

0:38:23.920,0:38:27.760
was him

0:38:24.480,0:38:29.760
i think it was yeah um i think it was

0:38:27.760,0:38:32.000
yeah so i'm always trying to just add

0:38:29.760,0:38:33.839
little like little things you know like

0:38:32.000,0:38:35.680
i've been trying to cook vegetables more

0:38:33.839,0:38:38.079
recently um

0:38:35.680,0:38:39.040
so i just try to like like one little

0:38:38.079,0:38:41.520
thing is like

0:38:39.040,0:38:42.960
when i have lunch i'll try to cook some

0:38:41.520,0:38:44.320
vegetables and i'm trying to get better

0:38:42.960,0:38:46.960
at cooking them

0:38:44.320,0:38:48.560
um because like i never knew how to cook

0:38:46.960,0:38:49.119
vegetables so i'd always make them all

0:38:48.560,0:38:52.560
stupid

0:38:49.119,0:38:53.920
you know like i basically only knew how

0:38:52.560,0:38:57.040
to like cook pasta

0:38:53.920,0:38:58.640
and eggs and stuff so uh

0:38:57.040,0:39:01.119
yeah so i'm trying to get better that

0:38:58.640,0:39:03.680
and i'm try

0:39:01.119,0:39:04.160
what's that what's what's what's stupid

0:39:03.680,0:39:06.800
about

0:39:04.160,0:39:07.440
how what's what's oh about stupid

0:39:06.800,0:39:09.920
vegetables

0:39:07.440,0:39:10.720
like like i'll just like cook them

0:39:09.920,0:39:13.040
overcook them

0:39:10.720,0:39:14.000
and like okay for example i like i'll

0:39:13.040,0:39:16.720
make broccoli like

0:39:14.000,0:39:17.119
i love broccoli but i'll like overcook

0:39:16.720,0:39:18.960
it

0:39:17.119,0:39:20.640
because i'm like oh i need it it needs

0:39:18.960,0:39:22.640
to have more flavor so i'll put a ton of

0:39:20.640,0:39:23.920
like soy sauce instead it's just like

0:39:22.640,0:39:27.119
drenched

0:39:23.920,0:39:29.040
which which can be good but then if you

0:39:27.119,0:39:30.320
put it away and you have it the next day

0:39:29.040,0:39:32.320
or something like that

0:39:30.320,0:39:34.240
it's just it's like it's it's like too

0:39:32.320,0:39:38.079
soggy you know

0:39:34.240,0:39:38.400
so you know you actually gotta you gotta

0:39:38.079,0:39:40.560
under

0:39:38.400,0:39:42.160
like you gotta let them be a little bit

0:39:40.560,0:39:44.000
um a little more firm

0:39:42.160,0:39:45.839
when you finish and then like when we

0:39:44.000,0:39:48.560
have food from a restaurant like there's

0:39:45.839,0:39:50.560
this like greek place that my wife loves

0:39:48.560,0:39:52.240
and then i really like the vegetables

0:39:50.560,0:39:53.760
there so then i'm like trying to reverse

0:39:52.240,0:39:55.040
engineer i'm like how did they make

0:39:53.760,0:39:58.320
these vegetables you know

0:39:55.040,0:40:00.960
and i noticed the broccoli is like yeah

0:39:58.320,0:40:01.520
it's like pretty firm and i was like ah

0:40:00.960,0:40:04.480
okay

0:40:01.520,0:40:06.000
i get it i'm like you know so it's just

0:40:04.480,0:40:07.680
like anything like you just gotta

0:40:06.000,0:40:09.200
practice at it and stuff

0:40:07.680,0:40:10.800
because dude because vegetables can be

0:40:09.200,0:40:13.599
really good like when they're

0:40:10.800,0:40:14.640
like when they're cooked really well

0:40:13.599,0:40:17.839
vegetables are great

0:40:14.640,0:40:21.520
yeah it's a great snack yeah you know

0:40:17.839,0:40:23.280
but i can't for me man i can't i can't

0:40:21.520,0:40:25.520
ever

0:40:23.280,0:40:26.720
i'm not honest i can't ever but i have a

0:40:25.520,0:40:29.599
tough time

0:40:26.720,0:40:31.920
like getting vegetables to just like

0:40:29.599,0:40:35.040
taste like just like just right exactly

0:40:31.920,0:40:35.839
i learned that i learned that uh that

0:40:35.040,0:40:37.520
firmness thing

0:40:35.839,0:40:38.960
just keeping the broccoli you know don't

0:40:37.520,0:40:40.240
don't leave me too much you don't want

0:40:38.960,0:40:41.839
to get you don't want to get it too

0:40:40.240,0:40:45.119
soggy but you still don't want to get

0:40:41.839,0:40:47.839
you know like too wrong um

0:40:45.119,0:40:48.640
that i picked up on that pretty quick

0:40:47.839,0:40:51.760
but

0:40:48.640,0:40:53.359
it's just like all i can think about for

0:40:51.760,0:40:56.160
seasoning freaking vegetables is

0:40:53.359,0:40:59.520
literally just salt and pepper

0:40:56.160,0:41:02.880
maybe butter i think but i don't even

0:40:59.520,0:41:05.040
i don't even know if that's even right

0:41:02.880,0:41:06.079
yeah a little oil or butter you know but

0:41:05.040,0:41:09.440
the calories add up

0:41:06.079,0:41:10.400
quick like oil is like i think like one

0:41:09.440,0:41:13.520
tablespoon

0:41:10.400,0:41:15.839
is like 150 calories so

0:41:13.520,0:41:16.880
or maybe two tables so it adds up quick

0:41:15.839,0:41:19.440
you know

0:41:16.880,0:41:20.960
for butter for i think i think for oil

0:41:19.440,0:41:22.880
like uh

0:41:20.960,0:41:25.200
yeah and probably butter is probably

0:41:22.880,0:41:30.000
similar you know

0:41:25.200,0:41:31.599
yeah so it it uh it adds up but

0:41:30.000,0:41:33.520
so i'm just trying to do that you know

0:41:31.599,0:41:35.680
and then i'm trying to cook enough for

0:41:33.520,0:41:38.000
like for dinner and then i'll have

0:41:35.680,0:41:40.400
leftovers for the next day for lunch

0:41:38.000,0:41:42.720
you know but then just little things you

0:41:40.400,0:41:46.839
know just keep trying to add

0:41:42.720,0:41:48.240
little things and uh it takes time but

0:41:46.839,0:41:50.079
um

0:41:48.240,0:41:51.920
it's tough dude like because then you'll

0:41:50.079,0:41:53.760
you'll you'll develop a habit

0:41:51.920,0:41:55.359
and then you'll backtrack on it or

0:41:53.760,0:41:58.319
you'll just like

0:41:55.359,0:42:00.640
screw it up you know and then but you

0:41:58.319,0:42:02.800
got to try not to just completely stop

0:42:00.640,0:42:05.440
everything you know and just keep kind

0:42:02.800,0:42:06.800
of keep going forward

0:42:05.440,0:42:08.640
yeah exactly that's that's one of the

0:42:06.800,0:42:10.000
points that he made in the book is that

0:42:08.640,0:42:11.599
you know

0:42:10.000,0:42:13.359
you you're going to have you're

0:42:11.599,0:42:15.200
essentially going to have some hiccups

0:42:13.359,0:42:17.040
and the point is to just kind of just

0:42:15.200,0:42:18.960
you know keep going but

0:42:17.040,0:42:20.640
and not not really beat yourself up over

0:42:18.960,0:42:22.240
it um

0:42:20.640,0:42:24.000
because i mean yeah nothing's really

0:42:22.240,0:42:25.280
perfect so

0:42:24.000,0:42:27.599
and i guess and i guess that was that

0:42:25.280,0:42:29.520
was one of my things it's like

0:42:27.599,0:42:30.960
as soon as i like messed up once or

0:42:29.520,0:42:32.400
twice i was just like all right i guess

0:42:30.960,0:42:34.079
i can't keep going with this habit gonna

0:42:32.400,0:42:35.520
have to you know

0:42:34.079,0:42:37.280
have to go back to the drawing board and

0:42:35.520,0:42:38.480
do something else because clearly it's

0:42:37.280,0:42:41.200
not working yeah

0:42:38.480,0:42:42.839
but and i think i was just like that was

0:42:41.200,0:42:44.000
just the wrong way of thinking about it

0:42:42.839,0:42:48.000
but

0:42:44.000,0:42:51.760
um but yeah man i i

0:42:48.000,0:42:54.560
as far as like cooking man

0:42:51.760,0:42:54.880
i i started i actually started tracking

0:42:54.560,0:42:59.200
my

0:42:54.880,0:43:03.040
my calories and stuff as well um

0:42:59.200,0:43:03.040
and it uh

0:43:03.599,0:43:06.800
i was able to do it for a good three

0:43:05.680,0:43:10.880
weeks

0:43:06.800,0:43:10.880
and i just completely fell off of it

0:43:10.960,0:43:15.119
yeah like i couldn't i couldn't do it

0:43:12.960,0:43:17.839
anymore i was just like dang dude like

0:43:15.119,0:43:18.960
i the the part the part that was that

0:43:17.839,0:43:22.079
was hard for me is like

0:43:18.960,0:43:23.760
when i made food at home it's like how

0:43:22.079,0:43:27.359
am i supposed to track that

0:43:23.760,0:43:30.000
because i'm making food i'm making like

0:43:27.359,0:43:31.520
some dominican food that's just like

0:43:30.000,0:43:32.880
talking about rice okay i can attract

0:43:31.520,0:43:34.480
the rice you know how many cups of rice

0:43:32.880,0:43:36.079
and stuff like that but then when i

0:43:34.480,0:43:38.400
get the meat and then i season it with

0:43:36.079,0:43:38.800
all kinds of crazy got a lot going on in

0:43:38.400,0:43:41.599
there

0:43:38.800,0:43:42.880
got a lot going on yeah i'm just like

0:43:41.599,0:43:44.560
all right so i needed

0:43:42.880,0:43:46.160
so what i need to do is just like grab

0:43:44.560,0:43:48.319
all the labels for all these type of

0:43:46.160,0:43:50.480
seasonings that i just used and

0:43:48.319,0:43:51.520
but then the thing is that one of the

0:43:50.480,0:43:54.160
seasonings that we use

0:43:51.520,0:43:55.839
is like a mixture of a whole big batch

0:43:54.160,0:43:57.839
of vegetables and stuff that they just

0:43:55.839,0:43:59.520
blend together and we just like use that

0:43:57.839,0:44:01.839
store it and use that to like season our

0:43:59.520,0:44:03.040
meats whenever we cook

0:44:01.839,0:44:05.440
and it's like okay so how the hell am i

0:44:03.040,0:44:05.440
supposed to try

0:44:07.119,0:44:12.560
it's just like at one point i just

0:44:09.520,0:44:15.040
started making up numbers

0:44:12.560,0:44:16.319
i don't know if this is going to work

0:44:15.040,0:44:17.760
like i feel like that should have been

0:44:16.319,0:44:19.200
like 300 calories

0:44:17.760,0:44:21.200
you know that's how i feel that's how i

0:44:19.200,0:44:23.599
feel about it

0:44:21.200,0:44:24.720
um yeah it's funny man i like it only

0:44:23.599,0:44:28.160
seems to work for me

0:44:24.720,0:44:31.440
when i just eat the same stuff

0:44:28.160,0:44:32.319
like just the same and i feel like a lot

0:44:31.440,0:44:34.800
of

0:44:32.319,0:44:38.000
people that end up being really fit and

0:44:34.800,0:44:40.319
in shape they just eat really boring

0:44:38.000,0:44:41.359
and they just eat the same stuff you

0:44:40.319,0:44:43.119
know

0:44:41.359,0:44:44.960
like i hate to say it but i'm eating

0:44:43.119,0:44:45.200
like yeah it's just boring like i think

0:44:44.960,0:44:47.359
i

0:44:45.200,0:44:48.880
remember the rock or something like that

0:44:47.359,0:44:52.240
it's like what do you eat he's like i

0:44:48.880,0:44:55.760
like salmon and vegetables that's it

0:44:52.240,0:44:59.760
like cheese you know yeah

0:44:55.760,0:45:02.319
i think uh who was it dang um

0:44:59.760,0:45:04.000
john cena the restaurant i think i saw

0:45:02.319,0:45:04.880
like a youtube thing once and he was

0:45:04.000,0:45:07.280
just like yep

0:45:04.880,0:45:08.160
all i eat is just in the morning this is

0:45:07.280,0:45:09.870
the day

0:45:08.160,0:45:14.560
i eat eggs

0:45:09.870,0:45:16.720
[Laughter]

0:45:14.560,0:45:17.680
don't eat anything else and then at

0:45:16.720,0:45:21.440
seven o'clock

0:45:17.680,0:45:25.200
we go out to dinner okay

0:45:21.440,0:45:26.720
yeah i mean it's like

0:45:25.200,0:45:28.319
that that must be super easy to track

0:45:26.720,0:45:32.640
for you guys but

0:45:28.319,0:45:34.400
i i don't know i guess i'm just like

0:45:32.640,0:45:35.839
i mean the going out to dinner could be

0:45:34.400,0:45:37.599
cool depending on

0:45:35.839,0:45:40.079
if he eats whatever he wants for dinner

0:45:37.599,0:45:43.040
then that could be great

0:45:40.079,0:45:44.560
yeah but that would yeah but i i don't

0:45:43.040,0:45:46.400
know i feel like

0:45:44.560,0:45:48.079
yeah i feel like like people that are

0:45:46.400,0:45:49.280
really really really fit they just they

0:45:48.079,0:45:53.040
eat super boring

0:45:49.280,0:45:54.880
like it's it's you know it's just fuel

0:45:53.040,0:45:57.040
it's just fuel it's just that's all it

0:45:54.880,0:45:58.560
is it's like gas it's like nobody no

0:45:57.040,0:46:02.160
it's like nobody gets excited about

0:45:58.560,0:46:02.160
filling up the gas you know

0:46:02.910,0:46:07.920
[Laughter]

0:46:05.680,0:46:09.760
i want some barbecue this weekend yeah

0:46:07.920,0:46:13.040
yeah tomorrow sure

0:46:09.760,0:46:14.960
yeah sure um

0:46:13.040,0:46:16.720
yeah i try to i try to save it for the

0:46:14.960,0:46:20.000
cheat days on like saturday

0:46:16.720,0:46:21.359
you know uh yeah so i i was thinking

0:46:20.000,0:46:21.680
about that i was like man i should just

0:46:21.359,0:46:23.839
like

0:46:21.680,0:46:24.880
just do cheap days and not not track on

0:46:23.839,0:46:28.319
those days

0:46:24.880,0:46:32.560
and or track as best as i could i guess

0:46:28.319,0:46:36.560
um and then literally just stick to

0:46:32.560,0:46:39.920
a semi-boring eating

0:46:36.560,0:46:42.640
menu throughout the week literally just

0:46:39.920,0:46:44.720
subway during the day or just make some

0:46:42.640,0:46:47.839
sandwiches at home for lunch and then

0:46:44.720,0:46:48.240
dinner it'd kind of be some of the same

0:46:47.839,0:46:50.160
but

0:46:48.240,0:46:52.079
more yeah more along the lines of like

0:46:50.160,0:46:55.200
just chicken breast all day

0:46:52.079,0:46:57.280
yeah i know dude chicken breasts get so

0:46:55.200,0:47:00.160
old um

0:46:57.280,0:47:01.280
so uh going back to the to the to the

0:47:00.160,0:47:03.599
develo actually

0:47:01.280,0:47:04.960
on the developer or work stuff and in

0:47:03.599,0:47:07.839
terms of habits

0:47:04.960,0:47:09.680
are there any habits that um you know

0:47:07.839,0:47:10.000
we're talking about like personal habits

0:47:09.680,0:47:13.119
and things

0:47:10.000,0:47:14.240
like that but on the uh work side of

0:47:13.119,0:47:17.599
things

0:47:14.240,0:47:21.040
are there any particular habits that um

0:47:17.599,0:47:23.119
you've been adding into the mix using

0:47:21.040,0:47:24.240
you know to help with productivity to

0:47:23.119,0:47:27.040
help with

0:47:24.240,0:47:28.319
working with your team um things like

0:47:27.040,0:47:31.760
that

0:47:28.319,0:47:32.480
yeah so so i guess one that i mentioned

0:47:31.760,0:47:34.559
earlier was

0:47:32.480,0:47:36.079
just like checking my emails just like

0:47:34.559,0:47:38.240
right three times a day

0:47:36.079,0:47:39.520
right um checking in the morning as soon

0:47:38.240,0:47:42.640
as i start

0:47:39.520,0:47:43.920
um check it right after lunch um because

0:47:42.640,0:47:45.040
i don't want to check it before lunch

0:47:43.920,0:47:47.599
because then

0:47:45.040,0:47:48.079
i'm gonna get that that oh i need to do

0:47:47.599,0:47:50.960
this

0:47:48.079,0:47:52.800
right now thing going so i'm like i'd

0:47:50.960,0:47:54.960
rather check it out to lunch

0:47:52.800,0:47:56.240
when i'm like full of food and just like

0:47:54.960,0:47:59.200
ready to go

0:47:56.240,0:48:00.559
and then uh once again right before my

0:47:59.200,0:48:03.680
end of the day

0:48:00.559,0:48:05.280
so nice that's one and that's

0:48:03.680,0:48:06.880
that's been pretty good because i mean

0:48:05.280,0:48:09.680
that that there's

0:48:06.880,0:48:11.520
you know i don't really have to worry

0:48:09.680,0:48:13.760
too much about email or

0:48:11.520,0:48:15.200
what anyone's asking me to do i can just

0:48:13.760,0:48:18.720
like focus on coding

0:48:15.200,0:48:21.520
yeah um so are you using hey for

0:48:18.720,0:48:23.200
uh work email too are you using hey for

0:48:21.520,0:48:26.240
a work email

0:48:23.200,0:48:29.440
no no oh okay um yeah i'm on

0:48:26.240,0:48:30.720
yeah we use outlook at my day job so

0:48:29.440,0:48:34.319
okay

0:48:30.720,0:48:36.559
yeah so i'm on outlook and on hey um

0:48:34.319,0:48:37.359
and i just i just checked both you know

0:48:36.559,0:48:40.640
yeah

0:48:37.359,0:48:42.400
um but that that helps

0:48:40.640,0:48:44.079
with uh you know i don't have to turn

0:48:42.400,0:48:46.160
off the notifications but

0:48:44.079,0:48:48.000
um i also just sit there and kind of

0:48:46.160,0:48:49.680
just ignore them i'll hear the thing

0:48:48.000,0:48:51.440
here and there and stuff but i just

0:48:49.680,0:48:54.240
won't even look at it yeah

0:48:51.440,0:48:55.680
um the one thing i i hear the thing but

0:48:54.240,0:48:56.960
i didn't i didn't turn off i mean i

0:48:55.680,0:48:58.559
turned off the uh

0:48:56.960,0:49:00.079
the slide in notification but i still

0:48:58.559,0:49:02.400
hear the ding um

0:49:00.079,0:49:04.400
just to just so i can like in the back

0:49:02.400,0:49:07.200
of my head just like know that there's

0:49:04.400,0:49:08.400
emails there and not forget to to check

0:49:07.200,0:49:11.599
it

0:49:08.400,0:49:16.000
um but

0:49:11.599,0:49:18.240
there's that and then also

0:49:16.000,0:49:21.839
not much of a habit but like just a kind

0:49:18.240,0:49:24.480
of way of managing my calendar i've

0:49:21.839,0:49:25.760
i've literally like i don't know this

0:49:24.480,0:49:27.280
might be a little extreme but i

0:49:25.760,0:49:30.640
literally

0:49:27.280,0:49:34.000
have every single minute

0:49:30.640,0:49:37.520
like scheduled out oh okay that's cool

0:49:34.000,0:49:40.559
so um my work hours

0:49:37.520,0:49:42.240
i'll have them scheduled out in there um

0:49:40.559,0:49:43.280
anytime that just like any free time and

0:49:42.240,0:49:44.240
stuff like that i'll have it scheduled

0:49:43.280,0:49:46.800
out there too

0:49:44.240,0:49:48.720
um and that's mainly that's mainly for

0:49:46.800,0:49:50.400
me to see like hey

0:49:48.720,0:49:51.839
you know this is what you're giving up

0:49:50.400,0:49:55.119
if you you know

0:49:51.839,0:49:58.160
take on this whatever event or

0:49:55.119,0:50:01.599
meeting or whatnot um

0:49:58.160,0:50:03.760
and i don't go

0:50:01.599,0:50:05.440
too far as some other people that like

0:50:03.760,0:50:06.480
put their tasks under calendar and stuff

0:50:05.440,0:50:09.599
like that

0:50:06.480,0:50:11.599
um but me

0:50:09.599,0:50:13.040
me doing that i can i can definitely

0:50:11.599,0:50:16.640
like just

0:50:13.040,0:50:19.760
kind of just like map out um my day and

0:50:16.640,0:50:21.440
and my week with that and also kind of

0:50:19.760,0:50:22.720
like schedule out some time or block out

0:50:21.440,0:50:24.559
some time to

0:50:22.720,0:50:25.760
like prep for some meetings maybe for

0:50:24.559,0:50:26.880
like prep for stand-up and stuff like

0:50:25.760,0:50:29.200
that just kind of

0:50:26.880,0:50:30.160
you know write out some notes on what i

0:50:29.200,0:50:33.280
did yesterday

0:50:30.160,0:50:34.960
what i've been doing today and maybe

0:50:33.280,0:50:36.640
um maybe some blockers and things like

0:50:34.960,0:50:40.640
that um

0:50:36.640,0:50:42.880
just so you know i don't really have to

0:50:40.640,0:50:44.079
um one scramble during the meeting and

0:50:42.880,0:50:47.920
looking for things

0:50:44.079,0:50:51.200
and um and that kind of stuff nice uh

0:50:47.920,0:50:52.960
yes on that and

0:50:51.200,0:50:54.880
i think that's about it yeah i don't

0:50:52.960,0:50:58.000
really have too many like work habits

0:50:54.880,0:51:00.880
besides i i guess like uh

0:50:58.000,0:51:02.079
just what was the other one i can't

0:51:00.880,0:51:04.160
remember it but

0:51:02.079,0:51:06.160
just getting it done just getting it

0:51:04.160,0:51:10.480
done that's number one habit

0:51:06.160,0:51:12.000
knocking it out um so last question

0:51:10.480,0:51:13.839
kind of going backwards in time a little

0:51:12.000,0:51:16.559
bit but uh

0:51:13.839,0:51:17.680
certifications so you know you were on

0:51:16.559,0:51:20.240
the meteo type

0:51:17.680,0:51:20.880
now blue acorn uh team for about three

0:51:20.240,0:51:22.720
years

0:51:20.880,0:51:25.040
i think you guys became one of the most

0:51:22.720,0:51:28.079
certified solution partners

0:51:25.040,0:51:30.319
of all time or something like that um

0:51:28.079,0:51:31.680
and so what was the secret to that like

0:51:30.319,0:51:34.160
what what tips would you give

0:51:31.680,0:51:36.079
to teams that are trying to up their

0:51:34.160,0:51:39.839
certification count

0:51:36.079,0:51:43.680
that kind of thing yeah um

0:51:39.839,0:51:43.680
uh honestly like

0:51:44.400,0:51:49.680
the the team just

0:51:48.000,0:51:51.760
there wasn't there wasn't like i don't

0:51:49.680,0:51:54.720
think there really was like a

0:51:51.760,0:51:56.160
one like moment that just like kind of

0:51:54.720,0:51:56.640
like sparked it for everybody i think

0:51:56.160,0:51:59.040
everyone

0:51:56.640,0:52:01.119
everyone was just like so like pumped to

0:51:59.040,0:52:03.440
get those certifications

0:52:01.119,0:52:04.319
that we all just started organizing like

0:52:03.440,0:52:07.920
study groups

0:52:04.319,0:52:09.200
within the team um so if anything i

0:52:07.920,0:52:10.559
would say like you know just organize

0:52:09.200,0:52:14.400
some study groups

0:52:10.559,0:52:16.640
and when you're studying like

0:52:14.400,0:52:17.920
don't literally just go through the uh

0:52:16.640,0:52:18.800
through the study guide and just like

0:52:17.920,0:52:21.920
read it

0:52:18.800,0:52:23.839
um because i mean

0:52:21.920,0:52:26.240
that you're not really gonna retain much

0:52:23.839,0:52:29.359
with that uh what we were doing was

0:52:26.240,0:52:32.640
um we would start study group

0:52:29.359,0:52:33.680
um we would read through let's say one

0:52:32.640,0:52:36.720
section

0:52:33.680,0:52:37.440
and then once we all kind of understood

0:52:36.720,0:52:39.599
that section

0:52:37.440,0:52:41.359
we would go and try to implement that

0:52:39.599,0:52:45.440
during the study group

0:52:41.359,0:52:46.880
so we would go into like magento um

0:52:45.440,0:52:48.720
build out a plug-in like what's a

0:52:46.880,0:52:50.079
plug-in okay well here's how you do a

0:52:48.720,0:52:52.400
plug-in okay what about

0:52:50.079,0:52:53.920
and then just let anyone just like ask

0:52:52.400,0:52:55.599
you know random questions like

0:52:53.920,0:52:57.599
okay but what about this scenario like

0:52:55.599,0:52:59.200
how would how what would happen in this

0:52:57.599,0:53:01.680
situation or what if

0:52:59.200,0:53:03.200
like you know we're trying to plug into

0:53:01.680,0:53:03.760
this and there's another plug-in that's

0:53:03.200,0:53:06.240
already

0:53:03.760,0:53:07.680
in there um like what do we do there so

0:53:06.240,0:53:09.119
we then we would kind of just like

0:53:07.680,0:53:10.720
go through that stuff and then just step

0:53:09.119,0:53:12.079
through all that all those things so

0:53:10.720,0:53:14.000
we kind of just approached every single

0:53:12.079,0:53:17.119
section like that and then the study

0:53:14.000,0:53:17.599
groups were from literally just two

0:53:17.119,0:53:21.440
people

0:53:17.599,0:53:25.200
to six seven ten ten people

0:53:21.440,0:53:28.480
um and um

0:53:25.200,0:53:29.359
every kind of every uh every time that

0:53:28.480,0:53:32.960
we took

0:53:29.359,0:53:38.160
that we took the test um we would

0:53:32.960,0:53:38.160
just kind of kind of recap um

0:53:38.480,0:53:41.599
what was it how i say uh kind of recap

0:53:40.960,0:53:45.359
like

0:53:41.599,0:53:48.240
how uh

0:53:45.359,0:53:48.240
what you would call it

0:53:48.480,0:53:52.640
what to kind of expect like what

0:53:50.880,0:53:56.000
subjects to expect

0:53:52.640,0:53:59.200
in the test and um

0:53:56.000,0:54:00.800
also without without really you know

0:53:59.200,0:54:02.000
divulging any of it like you know any of

0:54:00.800,0:54:02.960
the answers to the questions and things

0:54:02.000,0:54:04.079
like that

0:54:02.960,0:54:05.839
i thought you were going to give all the

0:54:04.079,0:54:06.319
answers right here that was that was

0:54:05.839,0:54:08.000
kind of

0:54:06.319,0:54:10.400
kind of what i was hoping for you know

0:54:08.000,0:54:13.520
what i mean

0:54:10.400,0:54:16.160
yeah no yeah we were all like all right

0:54:13.520,0:54:17.359
tell me how the test went what happened

0:54:16.160,0:54:19.040
you know what kind of questions but

0:54:17.359,0:54:22.160
don't give me any answers

0:54:19.040,0:54:23.119
um so that's how we were and we also

0:54:22.160,0:54:26.240
used uh

0:54:23.119,0:54:28.400
the swift water study guide and the

0:54:26.240,0:54:29.839
and the example of the sample tests that

0:54:28.400,0:54:32.800
they had or the

0:54:29.839,0:54:34.160
practice that sorry um we use those a

0:54:32.800,0:54:36.720
lot as well

0:54:34.160,0:54:39.200
those were pretty those are pretty

0:54:36.720,0:54:42.400
pretty spot on for a lot of them

0:54:39.200,0:54:43.760
um because right now i think i'm i think

0:54:42.400,0:54:44.079
i might like four certifications right

0:54:43.760,0:54:47.680
now

0:54:44.079,0:54:51.119
nice i was trying to get all seven but

0:54:47.680,0:54:54.960
yeah i woke up i did i did

0:54:51.119,0:54:57.280
i did go for the plus um yeah i was like

0:54:54.960,0:54:58.880
i didn't study for it at all i was just

0:54:57.280,0:55:01.040
like

0:54:58.880,0:55:02.799
screw it maybe take one for the team and

0:55:01.040,0:55:04.319
then just go go on an exploratory

0:55:02.799,0:55:06.240
mission and go see what's going on over

0:55:04.319,0:55:09.520
there and see how it goes

0:55:06.240,0:55:12.880
came back with a 33

0:55:09.520,0:55:15.920
super proud of it but um dude it was it

0:55:12.880,0:55:21.839
was a tough one wait 33 out of what

0:55:15.920,0:55:25.280
33 out of 100 oh sh like 33 percent

0:55:21.839,0:55:29.359
yeah hey

0:55:25.280,0:55:31.359
he gave me the old college try yeah

0:55:29.359,0:55:34.720
man the only one i ever got was the m1

0:55:31.359,0:55:37.599
regular uh developer so

0:55:34.720,0:55:38.319
yeah yeah so can't really can't really

0:55:37.599,0:55:42.000
talk

0:55:38.319,0:55:43.760
um but yeah no that's cool man

0:55:42.000,0:55:45.599
that makes sense dude the study groups

0:55:43.760,0:55:47.680
um sounds like a good strategy and then

0:55:45.599,0:55:48.000
i think also man just having like a team

0:55:47.680,0:55:51.520
that

0:55:48.000,0:55:53.359
is encouraging each other and like

0:55:51.520,0:55:55.200
you just like you said you kind of just

0:55:53.359,0:55:57.200
all wanted it and you you know

0:55:55.200,0:55:58.400
your life one person's getting assert oh

0:55:57.200,0:56:00.000
that's great and then you're helping

0:55:58.400,0:56:02.559
each other out

0:56:00.000,0:56:03.839
you know yeah and then and of course

0:56:02.559,0:56:04.240
there were there were some people there

0:56:03.839,0:56:07.760
that

0:56:04.240,0:56:10.799
kind of just took on like that

0:56:07.760,0:56:12.559
the responsibility as well of

0:56:10.799,0:56:14.319
you know organizing those those study

0:56:12.559,0:56:15.839
groups and just making sure that

0:56:14.319,0:56:17.280
all those invites got out and then make

0:56:15.839,0:56:19.119
sure that everybody actually attended

0:56:17.280,0:56:21.599
them and stuff and stuff like that yeah

0:56:19.119,0:56:23.040
um and it was just it was just us

0:56:21.599,0:56:25.119
regular developers just

0:56:23.040,0:56:26.480
doing it all ourselves yeah you know

0:56:25.119,0:56:30.720
yeah we're like all right

0:56:26.480,0:56:31.200
cool um but josh he would he would be

0:56:30.720,0:56:33.040
the one

0:56:31.200,0:56:34.880
usually just organizing them and then

0:56:33.040,0:56:38.640
just getting everybody in there and

0:56:34.880,0:56:40.160
you know nice making sure that everybody

0:56:38.640,0:56:41.920
learned what they needed to learn and

0:56:40.160,0:56:45.040
usually leading them and stuff

0:56:41.920,0:56:48.240
um and yeah man i think i think

0:56:45.040,0:56:51.599
a lot of encouragement was was was given

0:56:48.240,0:56:53.359
uh throughout that process yeah um

0:56:51.599,0:56:54.640
every time every time everybody passed

0:56:53.359,0:56:56.240
the certification you know they would

0:56:54.640,0:56:57.359
post it on slack their scores and

0:56:56.240,0:56:58.799
everything

0:56:57.359,0:57:01.359
everybody would be cheering them on and

0:56:58.799,0:57:04.240
stuff and yeah it was pretty cool

0:57:01.359,0:57:05.359
that's really cool awesome man was fun

0:57:04.240,0:57:08.799
catching up dude

0:57:05.359,0:57:10.400
um i appreciate you taking some time and

0:57:08.799,0:57:13.359
uh where's the best place for people to

0:57:10.400,0:57:14.799
find you online

0:57:13.359,0:57:16.079
uh i would say twitter but i don't

0:57:14.799,0:57:17.520
really post much on twitter but i'm

0:57:16.079,0:57:18.960
always on twitter looking at stuff gotta

0:57:17.520,0:57:20.960
work on that dude we gotta get you

0:57:18.960,0:57:22.640
posting a little more

0:57:20.960,0:57:23.430
hey man i've actually been thinking

0:57:22.640,0:57:24.720
about um

0:57:23.430,0:57:26.640
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0:57:24.720,0:57:28.319
actually been thinking about like doing

0:57:26.640,0:57:29.520
some i don't know like some tutorial

0:57:28.319,0:57:30.720
videos and stuff and posting them on

0:57:29.520,0:57:32.640
youtube okay

0:57:30.720,0:57:33.920
okay and doing that kind of stuff been

0:57:32.640,0:57:35.760
thinking about it man i've been thinking

0:57:33.920,0:57:38.880
about it for a long time but

0:57:35.760,0:57:41.680
um i don't know as of late i've

0:57:38.880,0:57:41.920
i feel like it's kind of like now that

0:57:41.680,0:57:43.680
i'm

0:57:41.920,0:57:45.280
really learning a lot about this pwa

0:57:43.680,0:57:46.319
stuff and all these graphical things i

0:57:45.280,0:57:48.160
feel like i could

0:57:46.319,0:57:50.000
i could share something i mean just like

0:57:48.160,0:57:51.839
just like how i saw you

0:57:50.000,0:57:53.200
you know tracking your calories and

0:57:51.839,0:57:54.240
stuff like that that kind of inspired me

0:57:53.200,0:57:58.319
to

0:57:54.240,0:58:00.319
go into this habit thing um

0:57:58.319,0:58:01.520
i'm thinking that maybe i should just

0:58:00.319,0:58:03.839
share my knowledge and maybe

0:58:01.520,0:58:05.520
you know inspire somebody else yeah man

0:58:03.839,0:58:07.440
that's so funny dude because like

0:58:05.520,0:58:09.040
i think so much of the time you just

0:58:07.440,0:58:11.200
share what you're doing

0:58:09.040,0:58:12.640
um it might not feel like it's that

0:58:11.200,0:58:14.240
profound or like

0:58:12.640,0:58:16.079
the calorie thing is so funny because

0:58:14.240,0:58:19.520
honestly i felt like

0:58:16.079,0:58:21.520
i wasn't getting that much feedback or

0:58:19.520,0:58:23.520
cheering on or whatever as i as i was

0:58:21.520,0:58:25.680
hoping for to be honest

0:58:23.520,0:58:27.839
yeah and i kind of felt like it was just

0:58:25.680,0:58:29.520
noise like i'm posting every single day

0:58:27.839,0:58:31.760
my stupid calories and i'm

0:58:29.520,0:58:33.119
i'm thinking to myself like everybody's

0:58:31.760,0:58:35.119
tired of hearing about this

0:58:33.119,0:58:36.160
that whatever and this is the first time

0:58:35.119,0:58:37.760
hearing that it actually

0:58:36.160,0:58:39.200
inspired you in some way and i'm like oh

0:58:37.760,0:58:41.280
man that's amazing

0:58:39.200,0:58:43.280
um and i think it's i think it's always

0:58:41.280,0:58:45.040
like that like you just

0:58:43.280,0:58:46.880
put stuff out there you don't know how

0:58:45.040,0:58:48.160
it's gonna affect different people but

0:58:46.880,0:58:50.240
you know if it's something that you're

0:58:48.160,0:58:52.880
into and you're learning and you're

0:58:50.240,0:58:54.640
um challenging yourself with then

0:58:52.880,0:58:56.720
there's definitely some value to other

0:58:54.640,0:58:59.280
people you know

0:58:56.720,0:59:02.160
yeah definitely i mean i've i've run

0:58:59.280,0:59:03.920
across a bunch of situations where

0:59:02.160,0:59:05.359
i'm just like dang dude i'm like sitting

0:59:03.920,0:59:06.799
here trying to like

0:59:05.359,0:59:08.000
literally like bashing my head against

0:59:06.799,0:59:09.200
keyboard trying to figure out this

0:59:08.000,0:59:10.799
problem and i was like man i wish

0:59:09.200,0:59:12.640
somebody would have just like

0:59:10.799,0:59:14.240
whoever went through this problem i wish

0:59:12.640,0:59:16.400
they would just like done a like

0:59:14.240,0:59:17.280
little video even if it's like two

0:59:16.400,0:59:19.440
minutes just

0:59:17.280,0:59:20.319
yeah this is how you fix it yeah yeah

0:59:19.440,0:59:23.359
this is how you do it

0:59:20.319,0:59:26.799
and um so

0:59:23.359,0:59:27.119
i don't know i i don't i don't really

0:59:26.799,0:59:29.040
like

0:59:27.119,0:59:30.880
too much of the formal thing so i kind

0:59:29.040,0:59:32.799
of just like want to go just like on

0:59:30.880,0:59:33.920
jump on and then just be like hey i'm

0:59:32.799,0:59:36.319
doing this today

0:59:33.920,0:59:37.119
because i was going and then be done

0:59:36.319,0:59:38.480
yeah um

0:59:37.119,0:59:39.680
you know i think that too much planning

0:59:38.480,0:59:41.119
yeah i think i think i think that's the

0:59:39.680,0:59:43.040
way to do it and it's the way to do it

0:59:41.119,0:59:47.839
well i'll keep an eye out for that

0:59:43.040,0:59:47.839
and uh thanks again man