A sabbatical is kind of like a mini-retirement - in this clip Mark Shust and I talk about what it feels like to not work and that avoiding work isn't really the goal - making your work meaningful is.
For a lot of people, when they retire, they get depressed. They feel miserable - it's a very difficult and tragic thing for a lot of people - you run into this wall and realize that work gives you meaning, gives you social connection, all sorts of stuff.
The Jiro Dreams Of Sushi documentary on Netflix is an amazing documentary that shows you someone who has really found meaning in their work.
It is both Mark and I's favorite documentary.
Me: I love everything about it - I love the craftsmanship, I'm a fan of Japan, etc.
Mark: It goes with the Ikigai - there is a whole book on it - Awakening Your Ikigai - Jiro is the culmination of Ikigai - it's exactly what they mean.
It's a very common word in Japanese - they use it every day. Even at his age, he has no plans to retire ever. He's doing it because he sees it as his life's work.
The Japanese culture has the longest life span int he entire world - Okinawa is one of the four so-called "blue zones" in the world. There are more centenarians there than anywhere else in the world.
They believe it's the Ikigai that makes everyone think they have purpose - no one really retires there.